Klein Palomino Team 2003 Full Suspension

USER REVIEWS

Showing 1-10 of 24  
[Apr 19, 2012]
m_pianoman
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Light, nimble (despite the extra few inches of wheelbase), efficient pedalling, fast! Gorgeous paint - looks better dirty though

Weakness:

well, Klein and Maverick are now both gone :(

I love it! Purchased last year freshly built-up with the Maverick suspension link (gives it a bit more laid back geometry than the Klein link from what I've read, is super stiff and rolls on bearings), also with Maverick D-link and derailleur kit. No issues with front shifting at all. Of course, I never rode it with the OEM mono link, but clearly the Maverick one works perfectly with their kit.Frame was never used by prior owner, so it's like a 2011 bike, albeit with V-brakes!

Can't say enough good things about the ride. I've always been a hard tail guy, but I can ride in comfort through the rough stuff now. I'm also finding it much easier on my knees. The rear suspension feels like it isn't there under pedalling, but also manages to soak up everything. Just got the Mbits shock back from service with Ethan Franklin, and it feels fantastic, even smoother and more sensitive to the small stuff than before. Since it's hard to say how long parts will be around for these shocks, I attached a bit of inner tube around the rear-facing part of the top shock bolt to protect it from gathering mud.

When purchased, was running a 130mm fork, which made climbing difficult. I've now swapped in a lighter 80-120mm fork, and running it around 100-110mm is the sweet spot. Climbs like a goat and seems more balanced. My new fork has 30mm stanchions, but I find it feels just as stiff. I guess it helps that I fully rebuilt it using Enduro seals (NOS Manitou from '05).

It's slightly tricky to get the seat post position perfect because of the angle it exits the frame at, but I had no real trouble. And since it's an XC rig, the post stays put 100% of the time anyway. I'm not sure what size the frame is but it seems to fit me perfectly, despite the 32" standover and my 32" inseam. Let's hope for no crotch-crushing incidents.

I run V-brakes since my hubs don't have disc mounts, but some research found that you can completely fix the vibrations caused with the bolt-on disc adapter by using a "Trek Fuel Stabilizer" strut from Brake Therapy. It's $40, and braces the 22mm disc mount from the top bolt to the V-brake boss on the frame. A cheap-o fix if you don't mind a strange 8" bar along your frame. Then again, V-brakes still work so well...

[Sep 01, 2009]
Betzel
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

Ride, looks, quality.

Weakness:

Weight more or less. Rear shock adjustments, rear shock weight.

Bought a nos frame last year, this is a 2003 frame though. Build it up as a race bike at the beginning, build it as a trailbike just now.

I think it is a fantastic trailbike with 120mm fork and 100mm rear travel. It can handle lots of terrain and with 11 kilo's that mine weighs it goes uphill very good.

No bobbing while riding, good response of the suspension. I just love how it rides. Rear shock needs way less pressure than is stated for my weight. If i put in the pressure of the booklet i have a hardtail.

Looks are awesome. People turn around to look. Color and finish just superb.



Similar Products Used:

none

[Jul 07, 2003]
Dan Becraft
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

What a nice ride! I was flying down a hill on Mt. Si and it handles soo much better than my Klein Mantra Pro did for over 1000 dollars more than this bike. Great handling on technical single track. I rode this bike on the MS 150 charity ride on Mt. Si and it was just enough suspension to hit the big stuff but not to much for the tight technical stuff.

Weakness:

There isn't much to talk about regarding the weaknesses. The only thing that I am getting use to is the 100mm of front fork travel which is more than my old fork at 70mm. But, that is more my weakness than the bikes.

You can not help but be noticed on this beautiful blue/green paint job! Funny thing is that if your going to drop 4 grand on a bike, please make it nice to look at. Because, most of the bikes in this price range are generally really good. The sad part is some of them look like crap! When your coming back from a ride in the mountains driving down the freeway and other drivers are checking out the look of your bike, then you know you have a great product that you can be proud to display on the back of your vehicle! I love it!

Similar Products Used:

1997 Specialized S-Works
2000 Klein Mantra Pro

[Jun 05, 2003]
Jerry
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

-Paint. 'nuff said
-Fork. The new Fox TALAS RLC is an amazing ride. Adjustability, stiffness and small bump compliance are unbeatable.
-'03 XTR......takes a bit of getting used to and set up.....and I was a bit apprehensive.....but they're sweet!
-Great fit for me. I was looking for this exact bike....a xc race-able bike that had plenty of travel for some hard riding. You can't beat 25.5 lbs for a large.
-The most significat strenght is the ride. Maverick never should have let this cat out of the bag!
-IT COST ME NOTHING! why do you think I bought a bike shop?

Weakness:

Wheels are a bit flexy...comparable to 517's. If you're at or over 200 lbs, you'll notice it. (I'm used to Ryno Lites)
That's it.....no other weakness in my eyes.

I've always excelled at climbing. I love it. I find trails with as much elevation change as i can find. And this bike could be no more perfect for me. My riding is fluid, smooth and fast......but this bike won't keep me from 2-4 foot drops or any of my normal jumps.
Set-up is the key. The rear end cannot be under-sprung...it will insult the way this bike is supposed to ride.
I can't wait to race this bike. I can't wait till my 6-mile lunch ride. I can't wait till my lights charge for my next night-ride. I can't wait till my girlfriend goes on her first ride. I can't wait till my next ride..........

Similar Products Used:

Stumpjumper, Fuel 100, Sugar 2.

[May 28, 2003]
calvin
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

excellent climber, of course, smashing paintwork (as any1 would expect of a klein) & a really sexy geometry...

love the way the bike handles & responses, it ain't fluffy light but it's easy going on most of the terrains i've been thru' & on the road, it flys... :)

Weakness:

it's a lil pricy, but then again, it's a klein...
paint work? sounds contradictary but it's heartwrenching to see the paint peel off... *sigh*
my right crank arm can't seem to stay clear of the swingarm, they must be in love... ;p

a dream come true... :)

Similar Products Used:

1) specialised rockhopper
2) my gf's superlight
3) demoed the mantra & adept pro along the years...

[Nov 06, 2002]
Todd Arvidson
Racer

OVERALL
RATING
3
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

Wow! no bob! Klein Paint! Spec'd!

Weakness:

Wow! Weight? Not sure how much my rig will weigh being an XL.

After looking on line for months trying to find reviews on the palomino-I finally got to ride one a my lbs(Zion Schwinn). I was strangely and surprisingly amazed at NO PEDAL bob whatsoever! It seemed to respond a lot quicker than my Adept and certainly was more efficient. I will be getting my Palomino in a week or so and will return with a more in-depth review...until then-can't wait to ride!

Similar Products Used:

Adept Pro

[Sep 30, 2003]
Justin
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
3
Strength:


This bike climbs very well and descends pretty well too. Once adapted to the cockpit it handles very predictively and well. When the suspension is properly adjusted it hooks up better than anything out there. There are only 3 designs I would ride right now; the Maverick or Klein (very similar), the Blur or Spyder and the Specialized with the brain. To me this bike balances all the pluses well at a pretty reasonable price compared to the others especially Maverick. I had an I-Drive for years and I loved it. It was a much better descender than this bike but this bike works better all around and climbs in another ball park.

Weakness:

The product works well thanks Maverick, but the quality is not great, thanks trek. The suspension is designed poorly with the axel bolt sleeves spining in the frame and the rear end getting so much slop it hits the stays. You have to lock tight the bolt but even then it is either slop or to tight to really work the way it should. The bike shop is right now trying a remedy supplied by Klein. I will try to post when it is worked out. I hear and read that they are taking care of people with bushings if need be. We will see. There does not seem to be an excepted place to start to tune the suspension so you are guessing.

Once it is dialed in this bike rides like a dream. It was my favorite bike all around so far until the mechanical issue with the suspension. Getting the supension going took allot of trial and error but it is right where is should be now. I have heard people running anywhere from 35-90 in this shock which seems very strange. Aside from that I stilll love the bike. 3 Chillis for value because they are not cheap even if good in comparison. 4 Chillis for Overall though it is splitting hairs depending on the mechanical issues. I shoudl probably be harsher since it pissed me off all weekend tightening the bolts every 5 miles.

Similar Products Used:

I-Drive, Turner, LTS, Moots YBB, Dakar, Epic, FSR, Outland VPP.

[Feb 23, 2004]
A N
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Go from any bike you like to this one and you'll feel at home. The frame is solid and gives you good feedback on the trail. The suspension soaks up bumps that would otherwise hurt. Stretch out the 125mm Talas and let the downhill riding being. Reel the Talas into 85 or 100 and climb like you're on a hardtail or run cross country all day in comfort. You can't beat a bike with full XTR, proven geometry and a beautiful paint job.

Weakness:

The aluminum frame on this bike is very "responsive". I think some steel/titanium riders might even call it harsh. My background is BMX and rigid frames so I love what I consider a "reactive" bike that also smooths out the big bumps. If you are looking for a Cadillac bike this will be a weakness for you. The only other point of stress is the front derailleur, it's floating what more can you say... goodbye to bob hello to the tuning stand, it's worth it in my opinion, maybe not in yours.

To go from a rigid to a full suspension frame and be completely at home but riding way faster on all terrain on the first ride has to be a good thing. I just can't explain how comfortable I am on this bike... it just fits! Smooth, fast, attractive, XTR, Fox...

Similar Products Used:

Canondale Jekyl, Canondale Scalpel, Trek Fuel 98 (all only for test rides)

[Apr 20, 2003]
Marty Leamon
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Build quality,fox suspension,Maverick design, XTR,great paint(hey its a Klein)race x-lite wheels. The other Bontrager stuff is good too.

Weakness:

Came with too short seat post,Klein death grip tires,some trouble getting new XTR shifting set up.

I bought this bike to ride the endurance mountain series here in Wi. I am 6'5" and 220, and thought this bike would hold up better than a fuel or sugar.(my lbs is a trek,fisher,klein,lemond dealer) Since it has been wet I have only been in the woods once so far,but the handling is really there. The fox fork and rear suspension work great together. I am still not dialed in yet but so far the bike seems very promising. Getting rid of the tires is a really big thing. XTR discs should have been an option. The Avid ultimates are very good rim brakes but discs go along with the character of the bike. I am afraid to scratch it the first time because the paint is so cool,but I know it will happen sometime. Overall I am thrilled with the Klein and know it will be around for a long time. Anyone who is a larger rider and who does more than 2 hour races should consider it as both a race bike and a great trail bike.

Similar Products Used:

I had a Fuel 90. Looked at sugar team and Fuel 100.

[Apr 19, 2003]
Kirk R.
Racer

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

-High quality throughout
-Proven design (no bob)
-Ride
-Price (have you priced Mavericks/Sevens lately?)
-High-end lightweight components (XTR,Bontrager,Fox)
contrary to what soem people think - Bontrager makes excellent, very light weight components!

Weakness:

-Cabel routing.
-Water bottles? Forget it (it has two mounts top and bottom but there almost useless on a small frame)

In my 15 years of riding and racing mountain bikes this is one of the best full suspension bikes I have owned. When I got the $$$ together to buy a bike I asked my best bike shop buddy what I should get. I had my heart set on a S.C. Superlight or Blur but he convinced me to get the Klein due to its better design and lighter weight (24lbs).

I am getting a little older now and I have made the move to full suspension and I don’t regret it. Today I just got back from a race where I placed 2nd in the expert Vet class. This race consisted of 4 grueling climbs – the kind that make your brain tell you “get off and walk idiot” – on a 24 mile course - but this bike just climbed beyond my expectations. On the down hills it performed like a champ – the Fox shocks soaked up these huge man made water ruts with no problem. The bike also handles single-track with no problems due to the incredible tracking of the Fox shock and the well balanced weight ratio from front to rear.

Speaking of Fox - they have one hell of an adjustable fork. Everything is on top except for the blow-off valve. It's stiff - it tracks - it leaves me feeling fresh after a ride. 80-125mm travel, lockout, two levels of damping control – did I mention blow-off? Yes, the fork will blow-off when locked out if you hit something big.

If there was anything I would have to pick on it would be the cable routing. On one had Klein takes the time and effort to internal route two of the derailleur cables but leaves the brake cable to be zip tied to little posts (I HATE zip ties). The reason they did this was for a disk brake setup – but I’m sure they could have thought up a cleaner way to do this considering the price.

I would recommend this bike to anyone looking for a well performing design which can take the up hills as well as the down hills. It is FUN to ride and even more fun to race on – especially when you make it to the podium and still have the strength to drive home and deal with the (wife,girfriend,kids,etc.).


Similar Products Used:

GT RTS-1 (yes - I'm that old!)
Santa Cruz Superlight

MTBR Newsletter

Get the latest mountain bike reviews, news, race results, and much more by signing up for the MTBR Newsletter

THE SITE

ABOUT MTBR

VISIT US AT

© Copyright 2022 VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.