Ellsworth ID 2003 Full Suspension

DESCRIPTION

-International Standard disc brake mounts and replaceable derailleur hanger
-5" - 5.75" travel
-CNC machined swingarm linkage
-Shot-peened, anodized finish
-Compatible with up to 6" travel forks

USER REVIEWS

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[Jul 17, 2003]
TruckeeLocal

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

Easy climbing, plush downhill
Nicely finished annodized frame
Neat (but fiddly) cable routing

Weakness:

Ugly Ellsworth font (!) and cheap head badge
Heavier than anticipated (32 pounds)
Looks huge/high stand-over and bottom bracket

Well I've ridden this for a while now and figure it's time to post a review. This is my first FS (and disk brakes) and so some of my issues are to do with getting used to the sag. I'm 6' and I've got a medium Id and the thing is huge to get on and off. My guess is that it's to do with the less than generous standover plus the plush sag. Once on it's fine and it's a great trail bike, if not quite as precise as my Bontrager Ti-Lite on the single-track. Going down-hill is a real pleasure with plenty of suspension in reserve, as long as it doesn't get too rough. But the biggest surprise was how well this climbs. I just wasn't expecting this bike to compete so closely with my hardtail especially as it's setup as a pretty rugged machine. In fact I'd go as far as saying the Id betters my hardtail on the climbs and only loses out in the tight single-track. This bike looks like it will stay in my stable for quite a while, and will continue to get used frequently (currently 3+ times a week, 25 miles each time).

Similar Products Used:

Hardtails and rigids

[Jul 15, 2003]
Big Daddy

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Very rigid frame. No lateral flex. Great bb clearance.

Weakness:

Like alot of other people cracked the chain stay. NO BIG DEAL ELLSWORTH REPLACED IT WITH IN DAYS.

Great bike. All of my other bikes i have owned or ridden was never up to my abilities. This bike is way better than my abilities. Being a 230lbs biker this bike handles my weight and abuse. This bike does eveything well if not great. This bike is great for just sitting in the saddle and climb. I broke the chain stay that everyone talks about. Ellsworth was great and and i sent the part to them on Monday and had a new one back Thursday. Anyone who says Ellsworth wont stand behind there product i find extremely hard to believe. I have spoke to them several times and always helpful, easy to get a hold of and do everything to make you happy. Like anything else you get what you pay for and you get a hell of bad ass frame for the money.

[Jun 19, 2003]
G Roberts
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
3
Strength:

Romic shock
Quality workmanship
Plush over small to med size bumps

Weakness:

Steep frame angles
Price
High standover clearance
Not so plush on the big stuff

I weigh 200 lbs, do mostly x-country riding, and enjoy techincal downhill type trails. The bike came spec'd with a 500lb spring, which was too stiff for my taste. With the 500 lb spring, I would not describe the suspension as plush. I wanted the bike to be as plush as possible while still retaining good climbing abilities. I switched to the 400lb spring which livened up the rear end, but at the sacrifice of a little mushiness when pedaling. But hey, what's the point in buying a 6-inch travel bike if it's not plush. At first I was estatic with this bike as it was a huge improvement over my older truth. The bike pedals super smoothly as long as you keep up the rpm's. However, on the technical downhills, the bike was bit of a handful. The suspension did a pretty good job of soaking up the bumps, but the steering is just too quick. Check the angles on the frame, they are pretty steep compared to the typical bike with this kind of travel. Magazine articles have desribed this as "razor sharp handling". Not what I'm looking for. I need a bike that is stable on the downhill (this is a 6-inch travel FR bike isn't it?). Also, the standover height is huge on a large frame. Getting back on the bike after dabbing on a steep technical uphill was like climbing on a horse. I think this is where the high BB comes into play. After a year of riding this frame I switched to a Foes FXR, which has an equivalent amount of travel, but much slacker angles. The FXR turned out to be a much better bike for my style of riding. I felt comfortable on the FXR from the very first ride, and have grown to really love the bike. It handles much better, is very stable in the technical stuff and when jumping, and also soaks up the big hits much better than the Id. Also, the FXR with curnutt shock actually has less pedal feedback than the Id. However, the Id was plusher over the small stuff. Perusing the classified section of MTBr a few months ago I noticed a lot of ID's for sale that were built up with big travel forks, single chain rings etc. Setting an Id up like that and I don't think you'll get what you're looking for. If you're looking for a nice plush all around x-country bike, and don't do a lot of technical downhill riding, the Id is a very nice bike. However, for those that enjoy the dowhnill a little more, I think there are better choices out there (hint hint...Foes FXR).

Similar Products Used:

Rode a older style truth for 4 yrs, Foes FXR, Gemini, Spec FSR, Giant AC

[Jun 14, 2003]
Ramon T
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Light weight 6" travel bike. Great attention to detail, welds, shot peened tubes, hard anodized finish, lazer etched graphics cold worked alum. Romic Shock. Sealed bearing at all pivots for vertially low maint. This bike SCREAMS quality! ICT baby!!! You need to ride to "feel" the goods!

Weakness:

Needs more tire clearance for larger tires, i.e. 2.3's in the rear. BUT NOT really a weakness.

Don't buy this bike until you talk to the guys at Beyondbikes.com Mike and Taylor hooked me up!!! I bought the frame and they offered to build it up that same day for a ride I had planned for the weekend! Lets just say this bike is way above my ability which leaves room for me to grow. Cool. Its first ride was a 12 miler on Sat. on the Big Laguna Trail. For this bike it was CAKE! For not riding in over a month this bike made it feel like no big deal. Never once smacked the cranks, no loss of traction anywhere. It climbs like a roach on the wall when you turn on the lights..., fast! It weighs 1 or 2 lbs. more than the Kona but has 2" more travel in the rear and 1" more up front. Ride on Sun. 40 miler Big Laguna x 2, Pine Mountain Trail x 2, Champange Pass, Noble Canyon, Pine Creek Rd., Deer Park Rd. and Indian Creek Trail. Handle every aspect of this ride without any problems. Gee, you think this bike inspires confidnece.., YOU BET! The bike handles fast, you think it your there, drops were no problem, the rock steps on noble..., well I had to baby the bike somewhere. Climbing is just one thing this bike does great it never broke traction once. The Romic shock cancelled Bobs outing on this ride and made everything smooth. Had to look down every now and then to see if it was really working. If you are ready to Anne up for the last bike you will ever want to ride this IS it! Cool note: if you want race this thing just buy a rear air shock, the frame will give 5" of travel and weigh just a couple of ounces more than the Truth. Oh by the way, I'm still waiting for phone calls from Specialized and Kona to say thanks for buying there product and to offer answers to questions that I might have. Kathy at Ellsworth, it was a pleasure talking to you, thanks for calling. www.sdmba.com Thanks for putting on Pedalpalooza It was GREAT, will see you next year! To those I rode with, THANKS.
Look Out!
Ridin' Tru!

Similar Products Used:

'02 Kona Bear Dee-Lux, Stinky's, SC SL, Heckler, and Bullit.

[Jun 10, 2003]
frank
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
3
VALUE
RATING
3
Strength:

Light frameset, the use of a Romic rear shock, beautiful anodized finish

Weakness:

Came with a big dent in the toptube that Ellsworth claimed didn't happen at the factory. I call bull. The rear dropout was not designed correctly and won't work with a 34 tooth cassette. Speedgoat makes a custom replacement dropout hanger that you have to buy separately if you want your rear derailleur to work correctly.

Very plush ride and I loved the adjustability of the Romic rear shock. I had heard a lot of horror stories about faulty welds and Ellsworth not standing behind their products. When my frame arrived with a dent in it I suppose the last laugh was on me. They were a pain in the rear to deal with and the review I had read seemed to be true. Not many people will admit that they spent $3000 on a lousy bike but I am man enough to declare my ignorance. Furthermore the bike climbed like absolute garbage. The other thing that really ticket me off was the fact that you could not dial the rear derailleur in unless you bought an aftermarket dropout, which is slightly longer in length. The one saving grace is that the bike rides very smoothly on the downs.

Similar Products Used:

None

[Sep 03, 2003]
Ryan Steele
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Frame design. Spot peaned finish. Higher bottom bracket. Romic racing shock. Weight. Durability. Best 6" travel bike with a full size frame.

Weakness:

I havn't found any.

This is the best trail bike that I've ever had or ridden. The higher bottom bracket is excellent. The spot peeaned finish is very durable. The romic racing shock has great adjustabliity. I foudnthat the Sram X.0 works better than the Shimano XTR as far as shifting. Its nice to have a bike w/ 5 - 6" of travel that I can still peddal uphill. Bottom line, the bike has made me a much better and more agressive rider. I'm very satisfied with the Ellsworth ID. Richards in Chicago were very helpful and very professional. I shopped all over and found their shop to be the best. Now I even ride with the guys from Richards whom most ride an Ellsworth ID too.

Similar Products Used:

None similar, but I've had a Cannondale Gemeni, Ruckus 2.0 Hardtail

[May 28, 2003]
Tim Baughman
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Gorgeous welds, pivots, rocker, anodizing etc.--rock solid yet light construction. Soaks up and clears the bolders on Pine Mtn. and upper Eldridge going up and down--climbs great on the rough stuff. Gets up to speed in a hurry, very quick handling, but stable on fast descents. Rear is very stiff. All the parts working great--Marta's took a couple of rides to reach full power.

Weakness:

Only weaknesses are also strenghts--my bottom bracket measures out at just under 15" (14.5" with the fork at 100mm), which makes getting back on the bike on a real steep climb (like Rocky Ridge) a challenge, but is great on the rocky descents. The head angle is a little steep going down technical stuff, but again is welcome everywhere else

This bike is very smooth and very fast. It wants to be ridden hard, over a wide variety of terrain. It is really the ultimate aggressive XC bike, with an emphasis on rougher, twistier trails and fire roads. The much discussed high BB is generally a plus, and since I'm using a lot of the 5.75" of travel it tends to be much lower than the unweighted measurement. Pedal power goes straight to the rear wheel, and I can keep the power on going over pretty big obstacles.

The Id was my first choice, but at list ($2,295) pretty pricey. I ordered a frame from another manufacturer (at Gravy Wheels) that was $400 less. After numerous delivery date pushbacks, none of which were communicated by the manufacturer, I went to Bryan at Mike's Bikes, and he helped me get the Id frame I really wanted at a reasonable price, and in just a week. I stuck with the incomparable Gravy to build it up (not his fault the unnamed company wasn't communicating), and now I'm very happily riding. Cudos to Gravy, Mo, and Julia at Gravy Wheels and to Bryan at Mike's for their patience and support.

Five flamers for the very fun, very beautiful Id.

Similar Products Used:

Turner XCE, SC Superlight, Marin Mt. Vision (older one).

[Sep 04, 2003]
Mark Davis
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Ellsworth ID. The romic racing shock. Excelellent feel. Wide range of adjustments. The gold spot peaned finish is very hard and durable. For a 6" travel bike at under 30 lbs, I find it to be excellent. I also like the higher bottom bracket. I find it easier to go over bigger logs and other obsticals. The ICT tracking is excellent when climbing.

Weakness:

NONE.

I'm very happy overall durability and ride characteristics of this bicycle. Its definitly a lot more agressive than other bike that I know of. As far as the paint / romic / ICT tracking, and 5-6" of travel with the sealed bearings, all in one bike, I do have to say is outstanding. Me & my brother Rusty both bought Ellsworths from RichardsBicycles.com in Chicago after being refered by multiple people for their excellent selection of top quality bicycles. Will write another review in 6 months and let u know how its going.

Similar Products Used:

Schwinn S10 Mountain bike.

[May 21, 2003]
Kent Merritt
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Does aggressive trail riding, hills, mud, logs, roots, with ease. Very well made and strong with nice anodized black finish. Very nice all around trail bike.

Weakness:

Well I did have to modify the Hayes international disk brake adapter - shaved some metal off of one end face to fit bike mount.

Confucious says: this bicycle pretty much handle job of long ride over most interesting road.

Similar Products Used:

Ellsworth Truth, GT I Drive, Trek and Specialized hardtails

[May 20, 2003]
wempi ja
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

frame quality, romic rear susp, handling, ... A for everything

Weakness:

none

I have been riding bicycle from 1997. And i always try to find the best one. I rode Canondale, Giant, Bianchi, and Intanse Uzzi SLX. Now, i have the beatifull Ventana El Saltamontes and the ultimate '03 Ellsworth Id.

These two bikes is the best i ever have. But they are two different kind of monsters. I ride El Salt for trailbike because it is light (equip with '03 XTR drivetrain and all the lightes parts in the world) and best in the corner. I ride the Id for light freeriding. For that kind of style (believe me), that frame is the best. It is lighter than Uzzi Slx (sure), more agresive. more versatile, ... more fun

The bottom line is; El Salt is gold, and Id is diamond. Buy both of them. But if you can only have one ... take the Id.

Similar Products Used:

none

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