Brooks Champion Flyer Saddle

DESCRIPTION

  • Brooks B.17 cover with a single-rails sprung frame
  • Black or honey colored leather w/ black frame

  • USER REVIEWS

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    [Apr 20, 2001]
    Charlie
    Cross Country Rider

    OVERALL
    RATING
    5
    VALUE
    RATING
    5
    Strength:

    More comfy than any seat I've ever used & I've tried many.

    Weakness:

    Back of thigh slap on downhills.

    This seat is definitely the most comfy I've ever owned & it'd still be on my ATB if weren't the intolerable "back of thigh slap" I've experienced with it on downhills. Makes mincemeat out of the back of my upper thighs on rough downhills which is a 1st for me. Won't go to waste tho -- I'll put it on my touring bike. As an ATB seat I'd have to give it a zero but as a road seat a five.

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    You name it I've probably tried it!

    [Feb 25, 2003]
    Lenny Taylor
    Weekend Warrior

    OVERALL
    RATING
    5
    VALUE
    RATING
    5
    Strength:

    Comfortable beyond comparison, quality of workmanship, a certain amount of elegance associated with it too.

    Weakness:

    It isn't so much a weakness, but since it is perhaps the most critical interface between the rider and the cycle, so you must adjust it correctly and do very minor maintenance from time to time.

    The best money you'll spend on your bicycle is that which makes it more comfortable for you to use. Having said that, you can't get a better ride than on a correctly adjusted leather saddle from Brooks. "Numb nuts" and other common ailments are a thing of the past, and because it is leather, it feels cooler to ride on also.
    I'd feel fairly safe in saying that most cycle discomfort is a result of incorrectly adjusted components. Take the time to learn how the seat is supposed to be used and follow the factory directions. You won't be sorry, and your seat will thank you for it!

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    Lots of plastic seats

    [Jul 02, 2000]
    Steve Kurt
    Cross Country Rider

    OVERALL
    RATING
    4
    VALUE
    RATING
    5
    Strength:

    The wonderful fit and support of a Brooks B.17, with extra ability to absorb those jolts that threaten serious injury to your backside. This is a saddle that you can use on rough roads on a no-suspension bike, and be comfortable at the end of a 200 mile day (I've done it).

    Weakness:

    Even for a Brooks, this thing is heavy. For my commuter bike, where I'm already dragging around fenders, lights, racks and bags, the extra weight is irrelevant.

    This is a saddle to keep your backside happy.

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    Brooks Pro, Brooks B.17, Brooks B.5N

    [Sep 15, 1999]
    Paul
    Weekend Warrior

    OVERALL
    RATING
    5
    VALUE
    RATING
    Strength:

    Comfort, looks, comfort

    Weakness:

    If weight is a concern, buy a plastic seat.

    This is a B-17 with springs. I bought this saddle from Wallingford (www.wallbike.com, 6-month, money-back guarantee), and have been very satisfied. It's soo comfortable that my legs wear out before my butt. It absorbs nearly every jolt, even tree roots, and I don't have to stand to relieve the pressure.
    Why buy a saddle and a suspension seat post when you can do better with a Brooks saddle for half the price?
    The design is quite elegant, without glue or plastic, and it looks great on my bike (those springs add a nice retro appearance). There was little, if any break-in required. If you want a new experience in riding comfortably and with style, buy this saddle! I'd give it more than five if I could.

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    Avocet somrthingorother, Selle Italia

    [Aug 13, 2005]
    Steve Burgess
    Weekend Warrior

    OVERALL
    RATING
    5
    VALUE
    RATING
    5
    Strength:

    comfort, durability, comfort, shock absorbtion, comfort, it's a B.17 on springs (B.17 is the best road saddle which, by the way, is what is on my road bike)

    Weakness:

    leather - watch out for rain, occasionally treat w/ conditioner, very occasionally adjust w/ spanner.
    weight - what's the big deal? How much does a full water bottle weigh?

    Brooks makes so many sizes, shapes, and models of leather saddles (Do you know why bicycle seats are called saddles? Brooks Saddle Company made the first bicycle seat.), that anyone of any size or weight should be able to find the right seat/saddle.

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    I've tried them all and I don't have enough space to write all the problems I've had with non-Brooks.

    [Aug 16, 2002]
    smokey strodtman
    Cross Country Rider

    OVERALL
    RATING
    5
    VALUE
    RATING
    5
    Strength:

    COMFORT!!!!!!!, appearance, reasonable price, dealer service (Wallingford Bikes is GREAT to deal with!).

    Weakness:

    i guess some would say weight, but the most overweight component on my bike is the rider!

    i've got several seats here, all with their good and bad qualities. the koobi has found a home on my fisher hardtail, although i sometimes use the selle italia if the trail is really gnarly and requires a lot of movement and hanging off the back. i had not found a seat that was comfortable enough for my road rides on the Poprad. read many reviews on brooks saddles here and decided to give wallbike a call. talked to bill laine and he explained their 6-month return policy and the best way to care for the saddle. i bought a champion flyer because i thought the suspension would be good for my lower back problems. i got my saddle in TWO DAYS! put it on the bike, treated it with proofhide, as bill recommended, and went riding. the break-in was not bad at all, pretty comfortable right from the start. treated it several more times and it kept getting more comfortable. you can tell when a brooks is broken in because there will be an exact impression of your sitbones in the leather. i usually take several 25-30 mile road rides each week (sometimes up to 50) and i absolutely love this saddle. it works best if you mount it slightly nose down. it also looks very good on my bike, i got the honey color. it darkens with use, but still looks very classy with the copper rivets. some complain about maintenance with a brooks. come on! i can treat mine in less than 5 minutes, and it's a lot cleaner job than chain maintenance. i've been caught in hard rain storms with no cover, and have had no problems. if it sets out in the rain, then you would definitely want to protect it. 5 smoking chilis for the champion flyer, wallingford bikes, and bill laine!

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    selle italia tri-gel, terry liberator, koobi, stock selle san marco (OUCH!!!!).

    [Nov 16, 2004]
    Casey Greene
    Cross Country Rider

    OVERALL
    RATING
    5
    VALUE
    RATING
    5
    Strength:

    Comfort

    Weakness:

    Nothing

    This Saddle has prooven itself to me on numerous trips and tours. i had about a 200mile breakin time with the leather, and about 500miles for the springs. Brooks saddles are the best you can get. next time though i will probably get a model that does not have springs to save weight; however, i will never buy another brand of saddles (unless Ideale comes back in buisness. i also hear there is a small company in holland or belgium that makes nice hard leather saddles).

    Bottomline: there are brooks saddles for every type of cycling, and if your bum is important to you, get one, and take care of it.

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    Velo Plush

    [Mar 31, 2002]
    Frankie
    Weekend Warrior

    OVERALL
    RATING
    5
    VALUE
    RATING
    5
    Strength:

    Soft and comfy

    Weakness:

    Heavy

    Get you a Brooks saddle, you @$$ will kiss you for it

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    Flite

    [Apr 27, 2002]
    stan grayson
    Weekend Warrior

    OVERALL
    RATING
    5
    VALUE
    RATING
    5
    Strength:

    Comfort and quality -- one of the few totally satisfactory new products of any sort that I've bought in a long time. The Champion Flyer is ideal for use on an upright/around-town/commuter bike. It is wide and its springs really work. It transformed the kick-in-the-butt ride of my aluminum frame Marin San Anselmo.

    Weakness:

    None yet but if you left it out in the rain, you might be sorry.

    The way the molded leather shape of the saddle adopts your
    bottom's shape makes for a unique product. I expect I'll be
    replacing my road bike's Flite with the appropriate Brooks.

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    The sprung saddle standard on the Marin San Anselmo was the right idea but too narrow for anything longer than 20 minutes of riding.

    [Jun 23, 2002]
    Florian
    Weekend Warrior

    OVERALL
    RATING
    5
    VALUE
    RATING
    5
    Strength:

    Quality. Craftsmanship. No pain. Soft, dry, cool, and I like the retro-look. People tell me it would last forever and I believe them but mine got stolen after just three months, arrggh!

    Weakness:

    Expensive, heavy, needs maintenance. European bike-thieves seem to know its value and extrapolate onto the whole bike!

    My experience with this saddle was somewhat the opposite of the folklore behind it: First, it didn't need any breaking-in but was comfortable for the sitbones from day one. Second, after a three-hours ride on day two, I felt the beginning of a slight CPS (Cold P*nis Syndrome). So maybe it was a little too soft for my 200 pounds. (You didn't expect a Brooks to be *too* soft, did you?) However, this is not so bad because on a gel-padded sattle I suffer from CPS after fifteen minutes! Third, I sweat a lot, but this saddle kept the skin on my backside perfectly dry. (Leather! The folklore was right here.) Fourth, the leather surface is very smooth! I liked this because my trousers didn't chafe, but you offroader-downhiller-rockjumper-types out there may consider it a major weakness because you will always slide a little on the saddle when you rather need control. So... My next one will be a a Conquest, or a Professional, or even a Champion again, but in any case a Brooks!

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    Noname gel-padded "racing"-style, Nishiki Hard-as-a-rock, Selle Italia

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