Ellsworth Truth SE Frameset

DESCRIPTION

Full suspension, XC, 4" rear wheel travel, sealed cartridge bearings, shot peened and anodized

USER REVIEWS

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[Jan 06, 2002]
Rich
Racer

OVERALL
RATING
3
VALUE
RATING
2
Strength:

Nice build. Nice paint. Bearings are no-fuss. Rear is plush. Plenty of travel.

Weakness:

Bobs a little. Terrible stickers (delicate). Not as light as they say.

This is a great bike if it fits your needs. I don't think it is a great race bike, which is really what I wanted. The frame is close to 6 pounds. No matter what you do, it does bob some, though you don't notice if you are seated or on bumpy stuff (the Ad-12 doesn't have a lockout). It climbs great in the sense that traction is good, but it doesn't accelerate like a hardtail. I had no problems at all with the frame and suspension in terms of reliability. Rear derailleur bangs on the suspension which is no biggie, but annoying. My expectations were probably too high. I was hoping for a no-compromise compared to hard-tail bike. It isn't that. Plus, good luck on finding one to demo ride. Not many people stock them.

It has a fair amount of travel, but not really what you would want for a free-ride. Especially since it is designed for an 80mm fork (even then the steering is not particularly fast).

You could pay much less for a Giant or a Specialized. I think they are just as good.

So, if you don't race too much (or none) and mostly ride XC but not big drops and rocky stuff, it is a great, but expensive bike.

Similar Products Used:

A bunch.

[Jul 23, 2001]
Dominic Paisley
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
3
Strength:

Suspension design - effective & efficient. High quality construction. Tough anodized finish.

Weakness:

Nowhere near as light as claimed. Stickers peel off easily. Only room for 1 water bottle.

Great suspension design - active all the time but still efficient. This frame works really well with a 4" fork for "all mountain" use. I have used it on everything from tight single track to super steep, rocky descents and it works well everywhere.
Downsides: Ellsworth claim super light weight but my small 2001 Truth SE weighs 5.6 lbs - 3/4 lb more than claimed. Also, my logos are peeling off despite their "lazer etched" claims. Worth the money if you want a great suspension design and a well made frame but don't believe the hype about light weight or indestructible frame finish.

Similar Products Used:

Specialized FSR

[Sep 18, 2000]
shawn
Racer

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Exellent design, good looks, top notch craftsmanship

Weakness:

none

I've ridden everything out there. Even the new full suspension 'racers' from the big names. This is the real thing, plain and simple. Great climbing ability and screams downhill. It's not cheap, but it's worth every penny. If you think I'm full of it, you need to ride one. I have two friends who bought one after riding mine only a few miles down the trail.

Similar Products Used:

everything

[May 22, 2001]
Mike Jankowski
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Oversized sealed bearings, lifetime guarantee, impeccable craftmanship, customer service.

Weakness:

Not one!

It was difficult to spend close to $2000 on a frame and shock. However, after talking to Lee and Miki at Dreamride [and reading MTBR reviews], I was assured that I would not regret it. They were absolutely right. The bike is worth every penny! On the trail the ride is phenomenal. Both climbing and descending were given new meaning. Honestly, I make the short steep climbs that I had never made in the past. I do not believe there is any loss of power, only increases in handling and traction.

The same is true when descending. The Cane Creek AD-12 coupled with the sealed bearings on the Truth make for four inches of super plush travel. I'm still getting use to the feeling of the four inches of rear travel. I've actually stopped on a few occasions to check the pressure in the rear wheel. The frame gives me an uncanny feeling that the tire pressure is way low. I'm sure I'll become accustomed to it soon enough.

The frame has a lifetime guarantee. I questioned Ellsworth [Cathy] about the bearings and replacement. She told me that the [oversized] sealed bearings in the frame were designed to last the life of the bike and if I did have any problems, Ellsworth Bicycles would replace them as part of the lifetime guarantee. What great customer Service.

Lee and Miki at Dreamride were wonderful to deal with. They returned e-mail inquires within 24 hours and both were very helpful with both the purchase and during bike set-up. They have the best pricing on frames and components.

Cathy from Ellsworth called a couple of weeks later. She had received my registration card and was calling to make everything was OK. She was very helpful: I had a couple of questions regarding the frame. We talked for about 15-20 minutes and I am very happy about the customer service aspect of Ellsworth.

Overall, the frame is well worth it. It seems like a lot of money to spend but if you're passionate about mountain biking, why wouldn't you go with the best. I figured I could have bought other frames at half the price, but I would probably have to replace it in 4-5 years. The quality is impeccable: you'll see it when you purchase one. I went with the 2001 Truth SE. I wanted the red metallic powdercoat with the black rear end. E-mail me if you'd like to see it or if you have any questions. Good luck.

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[Mar 04, 2001]
matt

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

light, fast, strong, unparalled climbing ability, tons of confidence descending,

Weakness:

get real

yeah it is pretty pricey, but hot damn it's worth every penny. It is just plain fast on the cross country courses, and still tough enough to survive the north shore's abuse.
It is the perfect ride for just about anyone, who doesn't consistently require 5+ inches of travel.

The guys at ellsworth are super friendly, and helpful. you will see what i mean if you buy one.

Similar Products Used:

specialized fsr, moots

[Apr 20, 2000]
George
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Any frame from this company rules! Cool nekkid aluminum finish, machine work, welds, and the lack of weight

Weakness:

dont bother trying to find any

If you have to have a lightweight xc bike with sealed cartridge bearings, this is the only one to have unless you are a fan of single pivot bikes(get an Isis SL). The original work of art just got better, but you better get one quick!

Similar Products Used:

Truth, Dare,

[Jun 07, 2001]
Nick
Racer

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Everything. The bike is stiff, strong and durable. This is the real thing, which is being copied by many of the major companies.

Weakness:

None.

This is the best bike known to man. It is the lightest full suspension bike out there with 4 inches of travel. It climbs better than a hardtail or any other full suspension bikes out there. Living in So Cal, the Intense is quite popular. The Ellsworth blows it out of the water. My friend has a Tracer and it is “built light” and it weighs 26.3 lbs. My Truth is built for XC racing and tips the scale at 23 even. My Truth also gets a full 4 inches of travel. The Intense says 4 on paper, but it is more like 3. When I bought my Truth, I got it with the Fox Float R (the one without the lockout) simply because a lockout is unnecessary. The Truth pedals so neutrally. Don’t be fooled by the Intense Tracer, get the Specialized FSR (it is basically the same thing, just with more travel and a lot less money). If you are looking to get a super sexy XC machine that will be the envy of all your friends, the Truth is the only way to go.

P.S. The people up at Ellsworth are super cool and helpful. You are not just buying a bike but a whole new way of riding.

Similar Products Used:

Intense Tracer, Specialized Rockhopper, Specialized FSR XC, Intense Uzzi SL.

[Sep 17, 2000]
John Allen
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Light, does everything very well, excellent balance, climbs and decends equally well

Weakness:

um.... $??

the best bike out there... the santa cruz was close but the ellsworth rides the technical slow nasties the best... and climbs better than any other bike, while decending like a downhiller... the "mmmmm... ellsworth" factor does have an effect too.... plus Ellsworth will take care of you... As will Lou at briarcliff... he's a real decent guy...

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Specialized (broke it) santa cruz (rim tours rental) ellsworth truth (broke it twice)

[Jan 23, 2003]
greg
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

the RIDE.... shot peened finish... build quality of the frame..the ride, the RIDE... did i mention the RIDE

Weakness:

if the cheesy stickers count thats it

the more i ride it the more i want ot sleep with it... all day comfort, great handling... glad i dropped the coin, this bike is just wounderful...

Similar Products Used:

giant.. diamond back... is anything really simular?

[Jun 15, 2001]
daniel
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
3
Strength:

This is one of the lightest FS frames I've had the pleasure to ride. It is comfortable and the suspension will not bob whilst you stand or pedal hard. The bike craves to be ridden hard, especially on steep technical ascents. In fact, there are lot of areas I can now climb which I previously couldn't on a light hardtail. The bike requires no special technique on tricky climbs. Rather than adapting to the bike, it adapts to you. The Truth seems to find its own traction, leaving you to worry only about pedaling.

The sealed bearings are a bonus, especially in wet or muddy conditions. They are smooth, silent, and virtually require no maintenance. It's amazing that this frame weighs less than the '99 model with bushings.

I like the silver shot peened finish, which adds an element of toughness to the frame. Like most Ti frames, I won't have to worry about scratching. I think other manufacturers should adopt this finishing style, unless it's been patented by Ellsworth.

Also, I want to thank all the folks at Ellsworth...Tony, Cathy, Ab, Sherpa....You gave me all the information and advice I needed and you were all prompt in replying to my questions. You all made sure I got such a rare bike. Also, I like your humble, down to earth approach.

Weakness:

Huh? Yeah right. Well, if I gotta do this, then here are some....

The frame's expensive, but well worth its weight in gold. It cost more than the standard Truth, but it's one of a kind. This bike is an investment in fun, so start saving your lunch money!

The stickers are attractive, but peel off easily. Luckily, Ellsworth will replace them... I like the gothic "Truth" logo, and I wish Ellsworth had not done away with it.

For any new Ellsworth owners, you won't have to worry about decals. The logos are laser etched for 2001. Muy bien!

"If I ever lose this heaven/I'll never be the same.." -Philosopher Kings

Similar Products Used:

FSR (I heard about durability issues)
Super V Raven (bobs quite a bit), Rocky Mountain Element T.O. (great bike actually)
Giant NRS (similar design, but heavier)

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