Ellsworth Sub 22 Frameset

DESCRIPTION

Hardtail, XC race frame, Eston tubing, shot peened and anodized finish.

USER REVIEWS

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[Nov 28, 2001]
Billy
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Strenght, Durability, Weight, Quality Construction

Weakness:

Wiping the drool off. Geometry

Poor geometry is attributed to a short travel (63mm) fork. This configuration makes the bike very sensitive to steering inputs. It also lowers the bottom bracket that'll require a 170mm or shorter crank arms.

The bike also has a short chain-stay that had me experimenting with various drivetrain configurations to reduce chainrub on the front derrailer and minimize chain crossover stress (I know, never run a chain from large gear to large gear). I have to resort to an older 8-speed set-up to be able to ride the bike and not have to worry of drivetrain failure. The final setup is Shimano XT rings (22/32/42) and an Ultegra 9-speed cassette (12-27 teeth). I also tried an 11-30 teeth 9-speed setup which worked fairly well. A large 44 teeth + chainring setup up front is too much trouble. I tried both a 44t and 46t RaceFace rings.

Overall, I am happy with the bike. Not as fast as the S-Works but is more forgiving by taking the edge off the trails (frame construction/material) and is more manueverable (shorter wheelbase, same travel fork).

My next purchase is a taller fork. I also own a Truth.. both bikes are sized on the smaller side of the scale. Just a heads-up for potential owners.

Similar Products Used:

Kona Muni Mula, Specialized M2 S-Works, Specialized Rockhopper, Supergo Access

[Oct 02, 2002]
Geir Kristiansen

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

It's a lightweight beauty. I like it!

Weakness:

I now wish I had an Ellsworth Truth as well...

I got a decent deal on this bike. I bought it as a complete bike from my dealer, thus the price.
The bike appears to be a good climber. I have no regrets spending my money on this bike. But be sure to put a better fork on your bike than I did, the frame deserves that.

Similar Products Used:

Hard Rocx Cambrium 4 (Norwegian brand), equipped pretty much like my Sub22, but with more Race Face products.

[Jan 10, 2002]
Carlos F
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Incredibly Light, 21.5 lbs for complete bike. Great geometry and Climbs like a goat. I love this bike. I have had a ton of fun on it. It looks cool, I get more compliments from girls on it, which is strange. I had a tracer before and it just wasn't my style. The top tube length on it was to short even though the called it 23 inches so it never fir comfy. The Sub 22 fits like a glove.

Weakness:

The rider.

I recommend the Sub 22 to anybody in need of a super nice hard tail. I think you really get what you pay for because if you look at the dtail of frame alot of work went into it. It rides perfect and has great geometry.

Similar Products Used:

Intense Tracer, Schwinn Moab, Jamis Dakar Comp. I currently have an Orange Patriot.

[Dec 31, 2001]
Jason
Racer

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Lifetime Warantee
Low Weight
Laterally Solid
Very Responsive
Climbs Like a Goat
Great Looks

Weakness:

NONE

When I first got this bike two years ago, I ordered the large frame. This was not the greatest decision since at that time, I was 15 yrs old and 5'6". At that time, the bike and I did not "dance" as I wanted. All has changed now. I am 6'1" and love this bike to death. The sub 22 is the best handling bike I have ever ridden. It is completely flickable in tight and twisty trails, yet very stable at high races speeds. If you want a bike that will climb the highest mountains, look into this bike. This is the worlds greatest bike!!! One word to the wise- Make sure to get the corect size or you will be disapointed. I would advise anyone interested in a Sub 22 to get properly fitted by a good shop. If you are detered by the price, consider that this will be the last frame you ever will buy; IT HAS A LIFE TIME WARANTY!!!

Similar Products Used:

Cannondale, Trek, Fisher, Giant, Specialized

[Nov 20, 2001]
RWB
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Stiff, light, quick, incredible tracking and responsive.

Weakness:

Hmm...

Ellsworth has to be the best kept secret in mountain biking. I'm not a full-suspension rider, so I cannot speak for their FS bikes. If you dig hardtails, I recommend the Sub22, BIGTIME.

Similar Products Used:

Klein Attitude Race (gave to the wife)

[Dec 05, 2000]
Terry
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

very light, stiff. it tracks extremely well

Weakness:

stiff, very stiff

this bike improved my mountain biking tenfold. it tracks extremely well, is very stable at high speed and is very, very forgiving in hairy situations. The only problem is that it is way too stiff for ultra long rides. At 41, I need a fs for long rides. for racing and shorter rides, it is amazing. I paid 1000 for this bike new (yes, new) so I can't complain.

[Feb 19, 2001]
Ian
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Light
Stiff
Tracks well
Color (anodized blue)
Beautiful craftsmanship

Weakness:

none

You get what you pay for. I christened this bike on one of the most technical, rocky riding areas on the east coast (Gambrill/Catoctin blues trails, MD). I put this frame to the test. Killer rocky down hills, grueling technical climbs, and tight turns. This bike performed above my expectations. It handles well in all conditions. It can climb, descend, and corner extremely well.

Ellsworth has crafted a work of art. This bike is beautiful, if you can say that about a bike. Pure eye candy.

If you have the money get one. It's worth it.

[Jul 18, 2000]
Ted
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

Very light, strong, cool looking finish and quality craftsmanship

Weakness:

expensive

I thought it would be a stiff ride but the wheelset and the plush fork smooth it out nicely. Climbs great even with the long travel fork. Well worth the money I spent.

Similar Products Used:

None, I also have a 1995 Kona Hei Hei but I wanted a bike with more aggresive geometry

[Jul 19, 2000]
Chris Waszak
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

Great Climber, Super Responsive, Yearns for speed, Head Turner, Superb Customer Support from the company

Weakness:

Weakness? Weakness is not in Ellsworth's vocabulary.

The rumble of the tires and the buzz of the rear hub is all that is heard as the silver streak screems past a racer. You ease yourself over the crest of an unforgetable ascent and look back to see others panting and struggling to overtake what you have already conquered. You cruise through technical single track that has ended the race for for many a rider. While the others pedal about on their bikes you feel at one with your new appendige. Both you and the bike perform to create the ultimate ride. The feeling is unmatchable as you and your ride work as a team to overcome any obsticle. These experiences are why some choose to buy Ellsworthes and why others don't know what they are missing.

Similar Products Used:

Yeti ARC

[Aug 25, 1999]
Cyclopz
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING

Sub 22.....I like!

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