Pivot Cycles Mach 429 Carbon 29er Full Suspension

DESCRIPTION

Paired with FOX suspension, DT Swiss rolling stock, and SRAM X01, it's going to be hard to improve on this Pivot Mach 429 Carbon Complete Bike. As it sits, this Mach 429 Carbon is versatile enough to compete in expert-class crosscountry events, while still being ready for aggressive, all-day...

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[Sep 21, 2021]
Zilpo


OVERALL
RATING
5
Strength:

Its light plush and well balanced. I like it more than the new 4 sl. It is much smoother over small bumps at low speeds so you dont get beat up by the trail

Weakness:

Weakness is it is not boost so the wheels are more fragile.

Price Paid:
6500
Purchased:
New  
Model Year:
2012
[May 22, 2017]
Cayenne_Pepa
All Mountain Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

~ Mix of square and triangulated tube sections = STIFF STIFF STIFF
~ Option to run internal or external seat dropper routing
~ One of the sexiest Trail/XC frame shapes around
~ DW-Link blessing
~ Quality of carbon rivals Trek and Giant

Weakness:

Availability and price

After riding a 23-pound Trek Superfly for the past 5 seasons - I wanted a lightweight bike that could be built-up to handle Trail abuse as well. Over the course of nine months - I exhaustively sampled ALL the 29er bikes that fit this tall order:

Specialized S-Works Camber
Turner Czar
Ibis Ripley v.3
Santa Cruz Tallboy LTc
Yeti SB95c
Intense Spider 29 Pro
Trek Fuel EX9.9
BMC Trailfox TF01
Niner RIP 9 RDO
Scott Spark 910
Kona Hei Hei Supreme

I scrutinized and read every published trade review and personal blog of the above bikes. The resulting analysis paralysis left me with a sore brain and legitimate quandary of what to buy. I resorted to using deductive reasoning and focused solely on all of the deal-killing aspects, to narrow my choices down. When all the dust settled... only one bike emerged.

Due to it's neutral riding position - I was able to sit "in" the bike and not just over it. Stand on the pedals and this bike squirts ahead with purpose and authority. There was almost zero pedal feedback. Every crank rotation was met with forward thrust. Jarring trail chatter was transformed into a muted tremor now. Clearing log rolls was no longer a matter of heaving the bars up - you simply hit it with speed and pump now. Amazing. This bike BEGS you to ride it faster, challenging everything your brain was hard-wired not to do. I'm not going to ramble on about this phenomenal machine - find yourself an NOS one unsold and see for yourself. The worst thing that can happen... is you'll end-up taking it home.

Similar Products Used:

See Above

[Nov 13, 2016]
Tiptx
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Love the DW Link Suspension
Stiff & very solid frame/ light weight
great handling bike, amazing climber and handles downhills with ease
Finish is top notch, love the blue

Weakness:

None as I'm sure there are way more expensive build kits out there that others may have but this one just suits me perfectly.

A pleasure to ride, very fun and solid bike that climbs like a hardtail and maneuvers like a 26" bike. Nice and quiet as there are no rattling or creeks from the frame. No wonder why this bike has received so many award as this is the complete package as it does more than I expected. Very versatile bike as it a do it all fun bike as it has helped me become a better rider. Best bike I have ever purchased as only my Pivot Mach 6 come close to the the ride I get from my 429 SL.

Similar Products Used:

Treck Fuel 90, Cannondale Scapel, Giant VT, Titus FTM & I still do have my 2015 Pivot Mach 6 (Green) and keeping

[Sep 22, 2016]
K.C.
Racer

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

Stiff and efficient Amazing climber. Very fast bike if you have the legs. Lets be honest this bike looks so cool in the green paint scheme.

Weakness:

peddle strikes and stiffened rear suspension under hard breaking. Hard to lean and cut without dropper seat post. All of these things you can adapt to to enjoy the strengths.

I am 6'2'' 210 lbs and use this bike for CC racing and play and a little bid of enduro.

Similar Products Used:

Santa cruze heckler GF Joshua and Titus and Ellsworth

[Apr 12, 2016]
Bradym77
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

Stiff. Climbs like a goat. No noticeable pedal bob (thank you DW Link!)

Weakness:

Low BB. I do get the odd pedal strike but that's more me not paying attention while pedaling.

This was my first new complete bike. Before then I either bought used or built it up from the frame. This is my one quiver bike now, it does anything I ask of it. I ride mainly singletrack and cross country-esque trails, as such this bike is perfect.

I'm even getting into bikepacking with it. A large saddlebag Kada Pak Ratt fits without rubbing the rear tire. Revelate harness/salty roll on the handlebars and Reveleate Gas Tank / Snack Bag round out the other bags. All fit and work great.

Similar Products Used:

Santa Cruz Superlite, Haro Escape, etc

[Oct 15, 2014]
DrDon
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

1. stiffness
2. reliabilty
3. effeciency
4. mud clearance
5. customer service
6. lack of noise
7. handling
8. versatility
9. finish

Weakness:

Really....none. I owned two other lighter carbon frames that didn't hold up to 4 to 7 days a week of rocky trail riding. I like the Kawasaki team colors. Although I mentioned finish, the paint can be a little chippy.

I have a Supermax on the front because I weigh 250lbs. With carbon wheels the bike as a whole is unbelivably stiff. I have broken quite a few frames and this one seems to be holding up well. Even lighter, aggressive riders that churn out the wattage can appreciate this frame. It's nimble on it's feet but will not feel as playful as a 27.5. I ultimately sold my 27.5, because 29ers fit me better, so even though I hate to admit it, the roadies are correct in stating that fit typically trumps other considerations when purchasing a bike. Especially now, when there are so many excellent bikes on the market. Even so, I feel Pivot takes stiffness combined with efficiency to another level. Right now I have a dropper and agressive 900g tires on it. On lesser trails, I run a standard post and much lighter tires. This bike loves a fast rear tire when it's dry. If I was doing a lot of downs, I would like more travel, but I'm a XC guy that likes to ride east coast type trails. The bike uses its rear travel very efficiently with it seeming to be very linear but with extremely rare bottom outs. This bike is my most prized possession. My 07 Vette is not even in the running. It's expensive, but to me worth the price. I so hope that Pivot doens't get on the "I need a frame that weighs one pound less so I will have a freakin light bike even though I'm running a fairly heavy wheel set because I spent my money on a chic carbon bar and a dropper" bandwagon. Pivot is still one of the few manufacturers that build bikes to be ridden day in and day out it harsh varied conditions. Yes, I am biased:) So who should buy it? Trail riders that like rocky rooty trails that ride a lot and race occasionally who prize stiffness and reliability.

[Aug 27, 2014]
Gallo

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

straight out the gate ready to roll wherever you take it. Soaks up the trail while giving full power to the pedal. Maneuvers well gives a positive feel from the trail to the rider. Does far more than I can ask of the bike. Climbs like a hardtail, handles like a 26 solid and fast on the downhill. A pleasure to ride.

Weakness:

pedal strikes happen more frequently than they did before. On steep climbs the front end seems a bit light and easy to get off your line. tubeless ready but not set up seems like a waste of tubes. All these issues are minor and easy to adjust to

So my tale is a bit different. My last MTB bike purchase was a Stumpjumper Hardtail in 2008 and before that 1987 GT Backwoods in the age of dinosaurs. I did not like the pogo I felt when riding an FS. The 29rs at that time felt clumsy and weird. Granted I was not looking at the top of the line bikes at that time nor was I on trail as much as I have recently been.

With the trail often being my first choice over the road I had decided that it was time for me to purchase a FS bike. I wanted a 29r based on many in my group and friends all seemed to go for this style. I discussed what they liked and what they did not like. I felt comfortable with making the move to the 29.

I did not read any reviews before shopping. I simply went out and rode a host of bikes. While difficult to assess in the typical LBS parking lot that is all you get. I rode a dozen different manufactures and at least 20 bikes at multiple LBS. Some of the rides I hated some were ok I liked a few allot and loved one. The 429 c Pro Build

What set the 429c apart was a couple of things. Many of the 29rs need to be guided or swooped into turns that I rode. The 429 c simply turned. The feel was more that of a 26 and besides me looking straight down at the wheel even now I sometimes forget that it is a 29. The bike responds to direction. It fit me perfect as built on the showroom floor and there was no adjustment needed beyond setting the saddle height and position. It simply felt right. The DW link seemed to flex in a perfect way

Having never owned a FS bike the first ride was an eye opener. Areas I had to get out of the saddle to soak up the trail I now sat through and hammered. The CTD is awesome as I enjoy giving the bike a different feel with the flick of my finger. The acceleration out of turns on single track is truly amazing. you hit it and this thing goes. It eats up flats and rollers and goes faster with less effort than my 26 hardtail. The rollover 29r advantage give confidence. My climbing has not suffered and in fact there are areas I would wash out on before that the suspension kept my tire on the ground and am able to climb now. The light front end helped me clear a switchback that I never made before on a twisty climb. I descend faster with more confidence now as well.

The bike is helping me become a better rider and Strava PR are common as I learn this bike. I am only a couple of hundred miles in so far but I love this bike

Similar Products Used:

2007 Stumpjumper Hardtail 26
1986 GT backwoods

[Aug 12, 2014]
jmobi2121
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

The suspension feel. Ultra efficient, silent, and inspiring. Adds more hot sauce on single track; while making climbs and rock gardens, easier and fun. Very surprising how the bike encourages you to maintain your momentum on the tech stuff.

Weakness:

low bottom bracket, takes a little longer to get used too. I sized down, and ride more upright now.

Built up as an all day trail bike with xc bias. For me, its near perfect in that role. The suspension doesn't sap your energy as fast as you start to fatigue. And aggressive riding is actually rewarded in huge smiles. Get a good wheelset, because you will not believe how quick and fast it gets. Also want to mention, toughness was a major factor in the bike purchase. Didn't want the nicks to grow as quickly like they would on some other bikes.

Similar Products Used:

Jet9, Ripley, 5Spot, Czar was not available at the time. Previous bikes were a RM Etsx, Giant Anthem X 29er, and Air 9.

[Jul 22, 2014]
dgw7000

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Stiffness of frame, geo spot on. I love the long top tube, you don't feel the extra weight of frame because of no flex. Bought bike "frame only" after demo for 3.5 weeks and had heavy SLX build 29lbs but still had great acceleration compared to my 2013 Rocky Mountain Element 999RSL at 25 lbs. I wanted to build my 429c at about the same weight as the 999RSL even though the 429c frame was 1.8 lbs heavier than the Rocky. Bike came out to 25.5 lbs with carbon wheels and XX1. This bike feels very planted to the ground when cornering, it takes a little while to adjust to the low BB. Peddle strikes do happen, but the benefits are obvious!! This bike really handles great, I do feel in the bike. I also love the way it brakes with no hope going really fast down hill, I have no need to play with the suspension now its dialed in. The DW link is kind of strange, if someone jumps on my bike in the parking lot they may say the rear feels real soft. When you take the bike on the trail it does not feel that way, it's so efficient. I love the way it climbs, it goes down hill with great control with conidence. I like the feel of front end "light" can wheelie easy. The bike ricks of guality, the fit and finish must be seen!!

Weakness:

Weight of frame, getting one may be hard!!

This bike makes me a better rider, I go faster through rock gardens without doing ant endo's. This bike just fits me perfect "Med". I'm 5'10 with long upper body. I want to ride more than any other bike and that's the biggest complement. One more thing no creaks, rattles or sounds coming from frame. Very solid, the best bike I have ever owned.

[Jul 19, 2014]
Zach Wagner
All Mountain Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

What a climber! I mean, wow! Thought my Devinci Troy was decent, but this thing puts it to shame. DW Link FTW! Stiff. Kashima rear shock even on lower end models. Stiff. Handles like a 26" bike (no BS). Did I say stiff?

Weakness:

Erm... uh... hrm... mmm... well okay, the model I bought has these terrible Magura MT2 brakes. They really are pretty bad. But they are a low end brakeset, so it's not all that surprising. Really can't think of anything else. Cable routing could be better?

Seriously, I have NEVER ridden a bike that climbs this well. My Troy isn't even in the same league. And it has a suspension designed by the same dude! I've said bikes climb like mountain goats before, but for the first time I actually understand what that means. If there's a caveat on the climbing, it's that when it gets pretty steep, the front wheel likes to come off the ground. My Troy stays planted a little better. But the rear of the Pivot stays planted MUCH better.

The frame is incredibly, incredibly stiff. You notice it in all aspects of the game, period. Just solid as they come. Plus the carbon feels and seems pretty much bulletproof.

Pivot says the handling is similar to a 26" wheeled bike, and I'm not inclined to disagree with them. It is more nimble than the Troy in my experience so far. Having not ridden a 26" bike seriously for a couple years, it's hard for me to say for certain, but the short chainstays and short wheelbase are definitely doing their job to make this bike as quick and agile as a 29er could possibly hope to be.

DW Link is the shizz... no bs. Feels like climbing on a hardtail, and great compliance on the DH. No problem tracking under braking. Feels amazing overall.

I'm not going to talk too long about parts spec, because there are so many specs. Suffice it to say, I got a deal on a demo version with the x9/xt group, and it's pretty decent. 2x up front with x9 in the rear (Troy is a beautimous 1x11, but the 2x actually works quite well for a 9er), the DT Swiss wheels are fine (swapping them out soon though), Maxxis Ardent Race TR EXO tires are really nice; provide good grip in a variety of situations (not sure on mud though... doubtful), Fox CTD Kashima in the rear is solid, and a nice spec for a lower end model such as mine, everything else is fine except the Magura MT2's suck. I about crapped myself the first time I tried to stop on a steep, fast run. But luckily you squeeze them hard enough, they eventually stop you. Also one of the bolts broke off on the left hand brake whilst tightening it onto a new handlebar.

In short, the best handling, best climbing 29er I've ever ridden. Hell, just about the best handling, best climbing bike I've ever ridden, period. The peeps at Pivot know what they're doing.

Similar Products Used:

Troy Devinci Carbon, multiple Gary Fisher 29ers and 26ers, GT Sensor 9r, Motobecane Ti 9er hardtail, Specialized Stumpy (29ers/26ers), etc

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